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M M LILLEY & ConPacking Case Makers & Timber Merchants

I worked at M M Lilley's of Summer Lane and Asylum Road, as a case maker. My
first job making the cases for the machetes made by Martindales just over the
road in Alma Street, known as the Crocodile Works.
My first gaffer was a nice bloke George Garret who had a bad accident causing him
to lose his arm. Mr Newby owned the firm and Mr Alfred Marks was the works
manager, Mr William Salter was the mill manager over the export packers, wood
machinists and the case makers.

I progressed from case making to wood machinist, then on to the export packing
side of the business, all ways willing to better my self. Over the years I did
most of the jobs that were needed to export machinery all over the world you
name and they sent it there. Some of the finest engineers built the machinery
that was made in Birmingham and the Black Country from the mighty presses from
Wilkins and Mitchell to the bolts of Armstrong's and all the other firms that
made Birmingham great.
This story came to light through two people one an old work mate from my days at
M M Lilley's.
Graham Jones now living in Aldridge, Brian Harding the Summer lane Kid who was
born and bred in the lane now living in Quinton, they at different times told me
about how Asylum Road got it's name and that as started me of on this trail to
prove both stories.

Miles Dawson Newby


A Card Game at M M Lilley's 1957
bottom left Graham Jones
clockwise Dennis Hillman,
Blonde Hillman
All the rest unknown except
George
Garret in the foreground
wearing the white shirt
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An Early Lilley Aprenticeship by John Houghton
The following indenture was transcribed from the original Indentures in August
5th 2002 by me with the permission of Ivor Newby
Dated 3 Day of Nov 1843
Luke Lilley To Will Eglington
Indentures of Apprenticeship To The Trade of Packing Case Maker
Until the age of 21 Years
This Indenture Witnesseth That
Luke Lilley, who attained the age of Fifteen years on the eighteenth day of
October last. Son of Sarah Nelham of Birmingham in the court of Warwick as well
by and with his own free will and consent as that of his said mother testifies
by his executing there presents. Doth put himself apprentice to Will Eglington
of Birmingham. Packing Case Maker to learn his arts and business of a Packing
Case Maker, and with him after the manner of an apprentice to serve him for the
term of six years.
To be computed from the date here of or until the said apprentice shall have
attained his full age of twenty-one years.
During which said term the said apprentice his said master shall faithfully
serve his lawful commands every where gladly he shall not waste the goods of his
said master he shall not absence himself his said masters service day or night
unlawfully and the said Will Eglington.
In consideration of the service of the said apprentice shall by the best means
in his power teach or cause to be taught the business of a Packing Case Maker
and also shall pay the said apprentice on the Saturday night in every during the
said terms of his apprenticeship.
The several weekly sums or wages this weekly sum of four shillings the first
year five shillings the second year six shillings the third year seven shillings
the fourth year eight shillings the fifth year nine shillings the sixth and last
year of the said term. And it is hereby declared and agreed between the said
parties that in case of the said apprentice became incapable from illness or any
other cause the said Will Eglington shall deduct from the said apprentice wages
his absent time.
And the said Sarah Nelham hereby agrees to find and provide for the said
apprentice food and sufficient meal and drink washing and lodgings clothes
medicines and all the necessaries during his apprenticeship
Witness whereby the said partners have put their hand and seal this Third day of
November 1843.
Sarah Nelham Will Eglington Luke Lilley
Signed Sealed and Delivered By all the said parties
In the presence of J D Osbourne
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Disaster Strikes!! January 1940




Lilley's were not the only people whose roofs had been destroyed by the weight
of snow, houses off Inkerman Street were badly damaged by the snow on that
night. More than 150 people were made temporarily homeless. One eye witness
reported the crash as sounding like an air raid! The employees at Lilley's
rallied round, and tremendous effort was given by them in repairing the roofs.
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The
Juggins Family

Mr Juggins was a friend of Mr. M.D. Newby and also the works photographer for M M
Lilley's
My father adopted the surname "Vernon" as a young man, having been born William
"Juggins", in the Aston Manor district of Birmingham in 1988. The third of the
four children, all boys, of Alfred John and Mary Ann Juggins. The eldest was
called Alfred, the second Benjamin and the youngest, Harold, the older three
always being known in the family as Alf, Ben, and Will (never Bill)
respectively.
My father once told me that the Juggins family came from Gloucestershire; but
whether by that he meant his father had so migrated, or whether a forebear, I
don't know. The name "Juggins" was unfortunate; more so then than it would be
today. The current edition of Chamber's Dictionary gives "Juggins (slang) a
simpleton" without the qualification "(obs.)", but it surely is in fact quite
obsolete now; I doubt for example, if any of you have ever heard it spoken. But
in Victorian and Edwardian times it was in everyday usage. Hence in 1916, as
attested by the legal documents still in my possession, my father adopted the
surname "Vernon".
His decision to change his name is understandable enough, his choice of "Vernon"
less so. Most men in his position would, I suppose, either vary the spelling in
some way (e.g. to Huggins, Jurgens, or whatever) or take their mothers maiden
name, which in dad's case was "Turbeville". It is, perhaps symptomatic of an
intellectually snobbish streak in my fathers character that he chose rather to
name himself after a "Professor" Vernon, his mother's maternal grandfather, who,
according to a faded press cutting dated c1820 (now mislaid) advertised himself
as a music teacher. Anyway, I must be thankful that the change was made. Like my
father before me I suffered as a boy from a terrible stutter, of which more
lately, which is enough of a cross to bear without a ludicrous name as well. On
my father's birth certificate his father's occupation is entered as "journeyman
jeweller".
In those days, perhaps still that trade is taken to include watchmaking, and it
was in that branch of his trade that he worked, as a young man. In my schooldays
I was never short of a watch -- an old-fashioned "turnip", but still a watch,
which few, if any, of my classmates had - out of a collection of these at in my
father's possession. When one went wrong another came out to replace it.
A more valuable memento of this family trade is the lady's gold fob watch that
Phyllis now wears on special occasions and that one day one of you girls will
inherit
Before long my grandfather left watchmouldng to drift through various
occupations. It seems he was self-taught in metalworking skills and in new
technologies such as photography and electricity; and being both intelligent and
enterprising should have been able to make a good living. Unfortunately he
combined these great talents with a streak of extraordinary irresponsibility, or
so I understand from the very few odd remarks made over the years by my father,
and something my mother once said about how my grandmother had kept things going
on occasions.
I suppose my father must have had some appreciation of, even pride in, his
father's great abilities but I believe this was overwhelmed in his memory by
contempt for his neglect of his responsibilities. He only once mentioned to me
anything about his father's earlier Late in life he interested himself in radio,
making receivers in the very early days of broadcasting. One of my earliest
memories is of listening through the headphones to the crystal-set grandpa had
made for us, and later he had us a three-valve amplified receiver that served as
our only radio until 1935.
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